Europawahl

Warum Katarina Barley zur EU nach Brüssel wechseln will

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Katarina Barley beim Interview mit unserer Redaktion in Berlin.

Katarina Barley beim Interview mit unserer Redaktion in Berlin.

Foto: Reto Klar

Berlin  Katarina Barley, SPD-Spitzenkandidatin für die Europawahl, im Interview über die Gründe für ihren Wechsel und ihre Ziele in Brüssel.

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