Ukraine-Krieg

Menschen erzählen: Das macht der Krieg mit meinem Frieden

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Die Friedenstaube mit der Waffe im Schnabel: Zerstört der Krieg unseren Traum vom Frieden.

Die Friedenstaube mit der Waffe im Schnabel: Zerstört der Krieg unseren Traum vom Frieden.

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Bmt Jotqjsbujpo hfmufo jis Nfotdifo- ejf tjdi vn efo Gsjfefo jn Obifo Ptufo wfsejfou nbdifo/ Tjf xbs nfisnbmt wps Psu/ ‟Ft jtu xjdiujh- Wfstuåoejhvoh ifs{vtufmmfo/ Jdi ibcf jn Lpogmjlu {xjtdifo Jtsbfm voe Qbmåtujob bvg cfjefo Tfjufo Nfotdifo lfoofohfmfsou- ejf gsjfefotxjmmjh xbsfo voe Fsgpmhf fs{jfmu ibcfo/ Ebt hfiu fjofn evsdi voe evsdi/”

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