„Hagen muss weg von den Altschulden – hin zur Schwammstadt“
Martin Weiske und Laura Handke

Der Grünen-Abgeordnete Janosch Dahmen vertritt im Bundestag auch die Interessen seines Hagener Wahlkreises. Beim Besuch der Stadtredaktion rät er der Stadt, konsequent die ökologische Transformation voranzutreiben.
Foto: Michael Kleinrensing / WP
Hagen/Berlin. Janosch Dahmen, gesundheitspolitischer Sprecher der Grünen im Bundestag, im Interview: Über Hass im Netz, Klimaschutz und Hagens Probleme:
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